Going Pro: Part 2 of 3

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In part 1 of this series, I told you a bit about me and a friend of mine, Steve. Specifically, I shared how we’d spent a lot of time together at school, then lost touch, before reuniting with a common passion for sport and betting. And, most importantly of all, I related how we both now make our living on line from sport and betting. If you missed that, Part 1 can be read here.

In this second part of three, I want to show you how this works; share some of the results achieved by normal people (just like you); and highlight some of the feedback Steve has had just in the last few months for his help and advice. If you’ve ever dreamed – or, better still, thought seriously – about making a decent second income from sports betting, then I encourage you to read through this post very carefully.

First of all, let me tell you something of how this works.

What Steve and his students are doing is creating situations where whatever happens in the event, they will win, even before the result is known. For example, if they’re betting on the outright result of a football match, they might set up a situation before the game and then have a very clearly defined route to create a win-win position.

Let me give you an example, for correct score betting. Here’s a typical correct score bet, £10 on 1-0. Notice how the 1-0 is a big green result but everything else is -£10 in red.

Only one possible winner with a normal bet

Only one possible winner with a normal bet

Now here’s one of Steve’s trades. This time, notice that there’s less profit, but that it is guaranteed, whatever the final result.

Green - or profit - everywhere. Nice!

Green – or profit – everywhere. Nice!

Of course, it doesn’t always work that way, which is why arguably the most important element to this is learning how to manage the possible downside. In other words, the first thing is not losing; the second thing is winning. After all, if you can ‘not lose’ in three games, and win in three games, that’s a pretty good situation to be in, right?

In a nutshell, Steve is trading football. Tr-what?! Trading football. This involves three steps:

1. Identify the right game, and the right trade

Steve’s got some brilliant kit which he’s had specially designed that basically does all the number-crunching legwork for you, in terms of finding the right game, and the right market – be it correct score, total goals, half time-full time, or whatever.

He’s charging a fair chunk of money per month for access to that, and rightly so. It cost him £10k to have developed, and it’s worth every penny, both in time savings, and in the fact that computers almost never make calculation errors (whereas humans almost always do!)

2. Set the trade up

Next, Steve – and his followers – set their trades up. That is, they place certain bets on the match before it starts. Then it’s cup of tea and a sandwich* time [*other drinks and snacks work equally well ;-) ] before kick off.

3. Manage the position during the game, with the objective of going ‘all green’.

As well as choosing the match and market, Steve’s software also shows what is statistically likely to happen, and when. This is of paramount importance, because it is this info against which the bets are made. This is also the part where Steve’s expertise comes to the fore, and how he’s managed to help so many people to become successful traders. That applies equally to those who have tried and failed before; and to those who had never even heard of trading beforehand.

4. That’s it

In most games, he’ll (and you’ll) be out of the market before the end, either with a nice profit or, if things go against you – which they can – a small, tightly managed, loss. And that’s the key here. If you can learn to manage the urge to gamble, and instead ‘play the data’, you WILL win.

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OK, so that’s all well and good, and I hope you follow so far. Now let me share some numbers with you, from some of Steve’s correct score trades. Remember, these figures are for live trades made by Steve and some of his members, and they were to quite low £10 stakes.

£3,175 profit to £10 stakes - that's 317.5 units profit!

£3,175 profit to £10 stakes – that’s 317.5 units profit!

There are a few things to say about this chart. Firstly, note the overall consistency of the approach. It’s flatlined a bit in places, and even dropped back a little here and there, but the overall trend is upward, or profitable as I like to say!

But it is important to note that sometimes games just don’t conform to what might have been expected. There are freak results – outliers – and you’ll have to manage those. It’s just part of the game. The difference here is that losing runs are generally short, and the fact that you have someone in your corner gives confidence or guidance when you hit a bad result.

Steve had a fair few of those when he started, mainly due to taking a while to shift the gamblers’ mindset. But since he got over that, he’s not looked back, and now trades for a living… as well as showing other people how to do the same.

And 317 units profit is obviously a huge amount. If you were trading for tenners, that’s £3,175. Or two nice holidays. At £20 stakes it’s £6,350. Or a decent second hand car. At £50 stakes, it’s… well, you get the idea. I don’t want to trumpet massive numbers, because the key is to start slowly, learn how to do this properly, get your confidence up, and build up your bank.

That’s the sensible way to do this. This is NOT get rich quick. But it is a seriously achievable second income opportunity that you can readily apply in your spare evenings and at weekends: that’s the beauty of it.

Naturally, when you’re making a few hundred pounds each month, you might want to take it to the next level, with a greater time and/or capital commitment. But first thing first. Get the hang of walking before starting to run.

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I asked Steve to write a little diary of a day’s trading. This is from last year, the first (and so far only) time we offered this – which sold out in two days!

I had a great morning with Japanese trading yesterday.
 
I had identified a couple of correct score trades I was interested in and set up my positions at around 10.30am. I made myself a cup of tea and had a read through the BBC News website to see what was going on in the world before the first match kicked off at 11.00am. 
 
There was an early goal which scuppered my trading plan somewhat, but with the score 0-1 at the break I was able to set myself up fairly comfortably for the second half. Team Stats told me that there would be at least one goal for the home side and so I was not too concerned.
 
Meanwhile, the second match had kicked off at 11.30am and there was an early goal there too. Team Stats suggested that the score would stay the same until half-time which it did. Again, the home side were expected to score at least once in the second half.
 
The first game was still 0-1 around the hour mark and then the home side scored twice in three minutes. That left me in a no-lose situation and one more goal either way would land a big profit. The fourth goal didn’t come, however, so a scratch [i.e. break even] trade there.
 
The second match went 0-2 just before the hour which was not the way I had expected it to go. According to Team Stats, the away side had not kept a clean sheet all season while the home team had a very good scoring record. Sure enough, on 81′ it was 1-2 and then five minutes later an equaliser went in. I had a big green on 2-2 and after laying some off cheaply in case a winner was scored, I was left with around 400% profit. One more goal would have seen that figure almost double, but over the two games that was a very good return.
 
While I was waiting for goals to fly in, I identified some in-play opportunities using Team Stats. There were a number of games in which teams were expected to score or concede and I waited patiently until the prices dropped to no more than 2.00 [evens]. I layed the correct score in three games, needing two winners to make a profit. Very happily, all three were winners to complete a highly successful morning.
 
To £10 stakes, the total profit was £68.50. Obviously that number rises considerably using larger stakes. :-)
 
I was finished by 1.30pm and left to enjoy a lovely sunny afternoon by the beach.

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So far, I’ve told you how this works, and shown you some of the numbers involved. And Steve has walked you through a morning’s trading (it’s exactly the same drill for an evening’s trading or a couple of hours of weekend trading).

Steve’s is a simple enough approach, and the numbers are exciting in terms of their achievability (if that’s a word!). But as someone perhaps reading about this type of opportunity for the first time (or maybe seriously thinking about whether you can do it for the first time), let me share some of Steve’s member feedback.

When I asked him for a couple of comments, I was shocked with the number of recent emails he had received. Not surprised really, but it’s clear proof that his methods work well, and they work well for other people. Lots of other people!

Hi Steve,
I feel compelled to send you this email. Over the past year or so I have subscribed (on and off) to your service and have read your emails everytime they grace my inbox. I always thought you had something with this service and I felt that it was a worthwhile subscription.
They’re are many charlatans out there in this industry, and being sceptical by nature I was wary of Goalprofits. I had a poor summer trading and I even signed up to a few of the other services that you recommended in an attempt to turn a corner. I found these products of a very poor standard in comparison to yours, I became frustrated with the industry and wrongly put Goalprofits into the same category as these other services.
After I analysed my own trading performance over the summer I released I was chasing profits and was very indisciplined.
Today though I returned a large profit, and in the middle of that were some losses, but I stayed focused, stuck to the plan and ended my Saturday night in a great way (Including a 2-3 trade in Man Utd game)
I have my own business and I am extremely proud of how I built it up. It is because of this that I know you are genuine when you tell your members that you are hurt by the loses.
So, after this incredibly soft email, from a grown man, I’d like to say thank you and keep up the good work.
 –
Evening Steve,
Just a quick e-mail to say how impressed I am with your service. I have only been with you a couple of months but have learned so much about CS trading in that time. I’ve been betting for years and have tried literally hundreds of bets and systems and I can honestly say that this is right up there with the best.
I’ve made a very respectable £408.08 profit so far. I’m sure, as my methods improve so will my profits. Keep up the great work, it’s very much appreciated.
Regards
John
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Hi Steve,
Just wanted to say I’ve been using the HT LTD strategy these past few weeks and I’ve been very impressed with it, well in profit and well worth the outlay. Two out of two this weekend at Landskrona yesterday and Coritiba tonight. Thanks for making it available, well pleased with it!
Regards,
James
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Steve
Thanks very much for the last month. Superb result. I am up over £200 (I wasn’t able to do all the trades and have experimented a bit in some other markets – sometimes to my profit, others not…) and more importantly I’ve gained confidence in my own trading.
I am considering increasing my stakes to £20 in November given that I feel very comfortable with how I play things now so I look forward to continuing this great run we’re on.
All the best
Matt
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Steve,
I think I’ve been a member for about a month now and I can’t tell you how happy I am that I found your service. The CS system is brilliant an it really fits with my personal approach to trading, and not only that, so far it’s also extremely profitable! But one of the best things is the chat room and support from yourself, I feel it’s jumped me months ahead on my trading journey, in terms of knowledge and experiences.
Cheers,
Alex
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Hi, Steve,
Many thanks for this. I traded for the first time last night and made 40% profit – I also thoroughly enjoyed the trading as well as the advice and discussion on the forum.
Great service and I look forward to the next session!
Best regards,
Ken
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Steve
I would like to say a very big thank you for turning me into a trader instead of a gambler, and unbelievably MAKING MONEY. Clear concise instruction without the B.S. simple.
Many Thanks
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Hi Steve,
Like the new layout, much easier to get around.
Yeah results good last week, in fact since I have started getting these stats through I have traded 12 matches and had 12 winners.
Great stuff
Bob
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for getting in touch and yes its going very well thanks, I still get a little confused at times but I started with smaller
stakes to get the feel of it and am well in profit already. Shame that 4th goal went in last night during Napoli and Roma game
but I still came out ahead. Great stuff!
I look forward to receiving any mail you send Steve, I have lost count of the number of “can’t fail systems” I have
bought and tried, aswell as trying to devise my own over the years, finally something really good
with a helpful bloke running it!
Cant thank you enough Steve. You really know your stuff and it’s a pleasure to be part of this.
All the best, Dave
  –
Just wanted to quickly say how brilliant it is now to have all the relevant stats for the day’s fixtures batched together, having a huge amount of stats made it easy before this update but now it’s even easier! What a fantastic service GP is, thankyou for all your hard work. All the updates make life so much easier for us all as traders.
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Hi steve,
let me say, that i never have meet such a honest guy in the (internet) betting world like you and i am looking forward to learn from you every day and get better and better with the time in sports trading. you are the biggest pro trader i have ever seen and i have every day such a good feeling to follow your advices. not to mention your statistical work which will all followers bring hopefully profit in the future…
best regards
Michael
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Hi Steve,
Hooking up with Goal Profits has been one of the best decisions I have made in my life!
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Steve
I just want to thank you for the work you have put in for Team Stats, these are more than worth the subs alone, and will give us a fantastic advantage. I CS traded the German game last night, my first trade for a while as I am not always available, but I usually lay your selections on the U1.5 market, when odds drop to acceptable level between 10-20 minute mark, on my phone and I am well in profit this year doing this alone. Team Stats will now allow me to highlight my own selections very easily and hopefully push my profit up higher. You should be very proud to be offering what is without doubt the best service available anywhere, and long may it continue. Thank you again.
Best regards
Malc
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Steve
You’re busy enough without having to reply, but just wanted to say thanks. Without a shadow of a doubt the best service out there, and as time goes on, probably the only one anyone needs.
Regards
Dom
I’ve never known a product or service to be so universally praised, and this is down to two things:
1. Steve’s passion for, and knowledge of, sports trading
2. Steve’s unparalleled customer support
All of these customer comments are on file with Steve and available to view on request. He’s a seriously straight up bloke, and he’s developed a fantastic reputation in his area of expertise for helping other people start, move on, and finally ‘go pro’.
If you want to know how you can join him, and start your own trading journey to part-time second income and/or pro trader, please do look out for my email tomorrow night (Wednesday 12th February) at 7pm. This is an extremely limited offer. And, as usual, when I say limited I mean it. It was available for just two days the only other time Steve and did this, before selling out. So please do look out for this, as it will be first come first served. (Apologies for labouring that point but I want to be clear, and fair).
In the meantime, if you’ve any questions, please leave them in the comments box below and either Steve or I will be happy to answer.
Best,
Matt
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28 Responses to Going Pro: Part 2 of 3

  1. well impressed with results

    oliver evitt
    July 16, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    • Hi Oliver

      Yes, they are impressive. And that’s to sensible stakes as well.

      Best,
      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      July 16, 2013 at 7:25 pm

  2. thanks, Matt. Again, very interesting.

    Peter Colledge
    July 16, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    • Thanks Peter

      Matt Bisogno
      July 16, 2013 at 7:25 pm

  3. So whats the cost or does that come in part 3

    Jon Melleney
    July 16, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    • Hi Jon

      I need to share what Steve’s offering first. ;)

      But yes, that part is coming…

      Best,
      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      July 16, 2013 at 7:25 pm

  4. From the sounds of it this system relies n someone sitting by a computer for the duration of the match(es). Is that correct?

    Marcos
    July 16, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    • Hi Marcos

      You need to be able to manage the trade, yes. That can be sitting by the computer. Or sitting in front of the tv with a laptop nearby. Or having dinner with a mobile device handy.

      So yes, you have to track your bet, but no you don’t need to be tied to a chair for 90 minutes.

      Hope that clarifies.
      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      July 16, 2013 at 7:38 pm

  5. Hi Matt
    Sounds really good, cant wait to read the next part. Very interested in this.
    Shane

    shane
    July 16, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    • Good stuff, Shane. For the right person, this could be a fantastic second income, or maybe more in time. You’ll know if you’re ‘the right person’ by reading tomorrow’s instalment. (Spoiler alert: if you’re sensible, you probably are!!)

      Best,
      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      July 16, 2013 at 8:28 pm

  6. Have you used this product yourself Matt?

    Terry
    July 16, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    • Hi Terry

      This is more than a ‘product’, but I don’t want that to get in the way of answering your excellent question. :)

      I don’t trade personally – don’t have the time for it with my business commitments (there are only so many hours in the day) – but I have received every single trade Steve has posted to his members since day one. As a consequence, I can vouch for the veracity of the results. And, as a friend and colleague of Steve’s, I can also vouch for his passion for what he does, and for the level of support (and time) he is committed to.

      Finally, I should add that when he got promoted up the chain at his previous work, he ended up providing training, so he’s well qualified in every regard for this.

      Hope that helps,
      Matt

      p.s. if I had no internet knowledge, and/or no desire to run a business dealing with customers etc, this would almost certainly be the route I’d take.

      Matt Bisogno
      July 16, 2013 at 10:04 pm

  7. Hi Matt, isn’t the universe wonderful, here I am fed up after another day of corporate stress and into my inbox comes your email. A way to combine two of my passions sport and trading and make in time a great living. Roll on tomorrow at 7 for what I am sure will be a great offer.

    Thanks
    Graham

    Graham Mitchell
    July 16, 2013 at 9:25 pm

  8. Like it Matt, simples.

    chris
    July 16, 2013 at 10:45 pm

  9. Hi Matt,thanks on a great & honest article about Steve & his goalprofits community I have honor to be part of.Chat room there is a great place to check for in play opportunities & learn from more experienced traders,ask Steve for any kind of advice to better your trading.I will stay a member for many years & he is definitely not overcharging for the best service I have found

    Zoran
    July 17, 2013 at 7:27 am

    • Hi Zoran

      Thanks a lot for sharing your experiences. It’s fine me saying what a great guy Steve is, but it’s far better coming from his members! :D

      Best,
      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      July 17, 2013 at 8:02 am

  10. My problem with committing to any money making system is that the payer is always on the financial back foot. whilst learning and treading with caution the next installment is due. Missed a few days trading and the next installment is round the corner. .Even at £30 a month after 60days the payer is under pressure, over a hundred pounds down and wonders if he will ever get it right. Does Steve have any plans to counter this scenario?

    Peter
    July 17, 2013 at 9:19 am

    • Hi Peter

      I’m afraid this isn’t that sort of offer. The reality is that the small handful of people we’re looking for will be able to set aside a bank, and be able to invest in a longer commitment than 30 days. I’ll be sharing a lot more detail this evening. For now, all I can say is that, for the right people (and they’ll know who they are), this is a fantastic opportunity.

      Best,
      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      July 17, 2013 at 9:55 am

  11. Matt,

    I look forward to tomorrow’s instalment. I spend quite some time away from a place where I have easy access to the internet to be able to trade as a match progresses, so am not sure if it’s right for me. But I won’t prejudge.

    Marcos
    July 17, 2013 at 10:58 am

    • That’s perfectly fair, Marcos.

      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      July 17, 2013 at 11:05 am

  12. it just all sounds very complicated

    gary kirk
    February 11, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    • It’s really not, Gary. In fact, it’s quite simple (but powerful!). 1. Find a trade 2. Enter the trade 3. Manage the trade 4. Exit the trade

      Full support means you’ll ‘get it’, no matter how long it takes, and most of the recommended games are traded ‘live’ in the support area, so you could actually piggy-back on other people’s trading if you really wanted to.

      Anyway, it certainly won’t be for everyone, and that’s fine (of course!)

      Best,
      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      February 11, 2014 at 7:21 pm

  13. cant use betfair.would betdaq be okay?

    kurt
    February 11, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    • Hi Kurt

      Both Betdaq and Matchbook are ok, but you need to be confident about the level of liquidity, not just before matches but also in play. As such, it might restrict you to the more popular matches, I’m afraid.

      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      February 11, 2014 at 8:02 pm

  14. Is this diff from just going to Steve site and signing up now ??

    Scott
    February 11, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    • Hi Scott,

      Yes it is. Quite different, as you’ll discover tomorrow. Thanks for asking! :)

      Best,
      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      February 11, 2014 at 8:03 pm

  15. Hi Matt

    How do i get on board and subscribe to this?

    shuan
    February 12, 2014 at 10:28 am

    • Hi Shaun

      I’m sending a further post this evening with all the details you’ll need. If you have any questions on that one, just let me know.

      Best Regards,
      Matt

      Matt Bisogno
      February 12, 2014 at 10:45 am