I use the shortlist only at the moment because of work commitments. I only back horses that appear on the win and place list. If there is two horses in the same race i leave it alone. Since 1st August i have around 25 points profit. That is backing them at around 6am in the morning. Anything above 6/1 is an each way bet. It has thrown up Black Bess @ 14/1 and Pensax Boy @ 20/1 in the past week or so.