Maybe a qualifier for your heavy ground winners Matt, Firebird Flyer 2.40 Ffos Las, 2 wins on heavy ground at Ffos Las and a few on soft ground. One of those wins was back in 2012. He won at Ludlow 2 weeks ago with tomorrows pilot on board, Conor Orr and claiming 7lbs. Looks good to me either way. 8/1 at the moment.