Profitable Lays System Review

Profitable Lays System Review

Profitable Lays

Welcome to our review of Profitable Lays

Profitable Lays is an E-Book that uses the simple principle  that it is very difficult to pick winners, therefore there must be profit in laying horses!
Laying horses being when you act as the bookmaker on Betfair, and actually lay horses to not win, rather than to win

The book written by Chris Adams explains how he believes a profit can be made by laying horses in the “place” market, rather than the “Win market”  this is where the payout is a lot smaller than in the win market, and therefore the risk of big loses significantly reduced.

Indeed his principle is to try and win £25, with a risk of losing between £15 and £35.
Whilst proofing in this trial we will be using £10 not £25 at Betfair SP

The basis of Profitable Lays is to use a 3 point plan which selects specific races, numbers of runners and certain race conditions.
Following these 3 rules selects certain races, and then using a fourth selection process the horses to “lay” are selected

This is all fairly straightforward, and only needs a copy of the Racing Post, or indeed access via the Racing Post website.

You would usually have 3 selections in any race and these are laid at Betfair SP, indeed the book explains how you can limit liability using Betfair SP, to maximum odds you are prepared to accept on the lay.

The E-Book costs £97, which would be tremendous value  considering the claims of over 490pts profit since May 2010 to October 2011.
The E-Book is currently on a special offer at £67, which would offer even better value.

The daily Profitable Lays selections are also available via a members-only website, to save you the work of finding the picks yourself!

This is a simple select and lay system which appears to be easy to follow

I plan to follow Profitable Lays for 60 days: placing a £10 lay bet per selection

Profitable Lays: Our Verdict

Well after a two month trial, what are the conclusions I have drawn from Profitable Lays?
Firstly by and large it does what it says on the tin.

Chris Adams (System Producer) claims you could expect to make around £700 per month using stakes of £25, this would mean we should have expected profits of around £280 each month.

We actually achieved below this (62%) with a profit of £348, but this was mainly due to 2 significant factors, I believe.

Firstly an exceptional losing individual bet which given its starting price was amazing: paying 16-1 the place, but was only the same at full SP  (costing £100 more than would have been expected)
Secondly a very poor run in the third quarter of the trial, which is probably inevitable a couple times during a year but unfortunate it happened during the trial.

I found the system easy to follow (indeed for a price of £10 a month you can access the selections online). The principles are straightforward, and seem to work.

It is fair to say this is not a “system” that will make you rich overnight.

But in fairness it doesn’t claim this.

What it does, is produce small steady profits, with a minimum of risk

Having followed the system I would suggest anyone taking it up, does set a limit on maximum lay price to avoid the odd exceptional losing bet.

You may lose a few “winning lay” bets because of this but should avoid the soul destroying occasional payout.

In summary I was very impressed, and would recommend this as part of any serious punters portfolio.

Neil Dawkins

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Profitable Lays System Review Results

Profitable Lays Day 1: 28/11/11

9 Successful Lays from 12:  Profit/Loss: +£42.40

Overall Summary

9 Successful Lays from 12 (75%):  Profit/Loss: +£42.40

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Profitable Lays Day 2: 29/11/11

10 Successful Lays from 12:  Profit/Loss: +£46.79

Overall Summary

19 Successful Lays from 24 (79%):  Profit/Loss: +£89.19

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Profitable Lays Day 3: 30/11/11

A third successive day of profit, I'm already warming to this simple but effective system

13 Successful Lays from 21:  Profit/Loss: +£37.5

Overall Summary

32 Successful Lays from 45 (71%):  Profit/Loss: +£126.69

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Profitable Lays Day 4: 01/12/11

10 Successful Lays from 18:  Profit/Loss: -£33.67

Overall Summary

42 Successful Lays from 63 (67%):  Profit/Loss: +£93.02

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Profitable Lays Day 5: 02/12/11

15 Successful Lays from 23:  Profit/Loss: +£48.30 (1 N/R)

Overall Summary

57  Successful Lays from 86 (66%):  Profit/Loss: +£141.32

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Profitable Lays Day 6: 03/12/11

18 Successful Lays from 27:  Profit/Loss: +£47.20

Overall Summary

75  Successful Lays from 113 (66%):  Profit/Loss: +£188.52

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Profitable Lays Day 7: 04/12/11

6  Successful Lays from9:  Profit/Loss: +£2.00

Overall Summary

81  Successful Lays from 122 (66%):  Profit/Loss: +£190.52

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Profitable Lays Day 8: 05/12/11

8  Successful Lays from 15:  Profit/Loss: -£54.20

poor day today, but inevitable one would come

Overall Summary

89  Successful Lays from 137 (65%):  Profit/Loss: +£136.32

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Profitable Lays Day 9: 06/12/11

11  Successful Lays from 21:  Profit/Loss: -£33.52

poor day again today, hopefully change tomorrow

Overall Summary

100 Successful Lays from 158  (65%):  Profit/Loss: +£102.08

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Profitable Lays Day 10: 07/12/11

9  Successful Lays from 18:  Profit/Loss: -£49.80

poor day again today as 2 placed in the last, hopefully change tomorrow,

still well up, just a couple poor days

Overall Summary

109 Successful Lays from 176  (61%):  Profit/Loss: +£52.28

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Profitable Lays Day 10: 08/12/11

15  Successful Lays from 21:  Profit/Loss: +£19.90

Overall Summary

124Successful Lays from 197  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£72.18

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Profitable Lays Day 11: 09/12/11

18 Successful Lays from 24:  Profit/Loss: +£85.80

far better today

Overall Summary

142 Successful Lays from 221  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£157.98

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Profitable Lays Day 12: 10/12/11

13 Successful Lays from 24:  Profit/Loss: -£55.50

Not so good today, a few big priced losers hit the bank hard

Overall Summary

155 Successful Lays from 246  (66%):  Profit/Loss: +£102.48

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Profitable Lays Day 13: 11/12/11

4 Successful Lays from 6:  Profit/Loss: +£19.30

Overall Summary

159 Successful Lays from 252  (66%):  Profit/Loss: +£121.78

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Profitable Lays Day 14: 12/12/11

4 Successful Lays from 9:  Profit/Loss: -£36.80

Overall Summary

163 Successful Lays from 261  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£84.98

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Profitable Lays Day 15: 13/12/11

7 Successful Lays from 9:  Profit/Loss: +45.80

Overall Summary

170Successful Lays from 270   (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£130.78

 

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Profitable Lays Day 16: 14/12/11

5  Successful Lays from 9  Profit/Loss: -£8.10

Last race a disaster today with all 3 placing cleared out all profits on the day, pity !

Overall Summary

175 Successful Lays from 279   (65%):  Profit/Loss: +£122.68

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Profitable Lays Day 17: 15/12/11

10  Successful Lays from 15  Profit/Loss: +£11.30

Last race a disaster again today with a loss of £37, which seriously reduced profits

Overall Summary

185 Successful Lays from 294   (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£133.98

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Profitable Lays Day 18: 16/12/11

6  Successful Lays from 11  Profit/Loss: +£13.50 (1 NR)

Overall Summary

191 Successful Lays from 305   (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£147.48

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Profitable Lays Day 19: 17/12/11

14  Successful Lays from 20  Profit/Loss: +£30.50 (1 NR)

Another decent day, still quite impressed with the performance

Overall Summary

205 Successful Lays from 325   (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£177.98

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Profitable Lays Day 20: 18/12/11

5  Successful Lays from 8  Profit/Loss: +£3.60 (1 NR)

Another decent day, still quite impressed with the performance

Overall Summary

210 Successful Lays from 333  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£181.58

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Profitable Lays Day 21: 19/12/11

8  Successful Lays from 14 Profit/Loss: +£14.80 (1 NR)

decent day again

Overall Summary

218 Successful Lays from 347  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£196.38

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Profitable Lays Day 22: 20/12/11

11  Successful Lays from 17 Profit/Loss: +£28.40 (1 NR)

decent day again

Overall Summary

229 Successful Lays from 364  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£224.78

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Profitable Lays Day 23: 21/12/11

15  Successful Lays from 21 Profit/Loss: +£7.40

Small profit again, still going well

Overall Summary

244 Successful Lays from 385  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£232.18

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Profitable Lays Day 24: 22/12/11

11  Successful Lays from 14 Profit/Loss: +£49.20 (1NR)

great day

Overall Summary

244 Successful Lays from 385  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£281.38

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Profitable Lays Day 25: 26/12/11

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Profitable Lays Day 25: 26/12/11

15  Successful Lays from 24 Profit/Loss: +£26.10

great day

Overall Summary

259 Successful Lays from 409  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£307.48

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Profitable Lays Day 26: 27/12/11

7  Successful Lays from 9 Profit/Loss: +£36.30

great day

Overall Summary

266 Successful Lays from 418  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£343.78

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Profitable Lays Day 27: 28/12/11

15  Successful Lays from 28  Profit/Loss: +£19.90 (1 Non Runner)

good day

Overall Summary

281 Successful Lays from 446  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£363.68

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Profitable Lays Day 28: 29/12/11

7  Successful Lays from 10 Profit/Loss: +£51.10 (2 Non Runner)

great day

Overall Summary

273 Successful Lays from 428  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£394.88

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Profitable Lays Day 29: 30/12/11

7  Successful Lays from 12 Profit/Loss: -£42.10

Was all going well (up 46.80 )until the last when all 3 placed costing us £88.90 - 0uch !

Overall Summary

280 Successful Lays from 440  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£352.78

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Profitable Lays Day 30: 31/12/11

12  Successful Lays from 18 Profit/Loss: -£12.10

Just about level today

Overall Summary

292 Successful Lays from 458  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£340.68

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Profitable Lays Day 31: 01/01/12

16  Successful Lays from 21 Profit/Loss: +£66.30

Nice profit again

Overall Summary

308 Successful Lays from 479  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£406.98

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Profitable Lays Day 32: 02/01/12

9  Successful Lays from 14 Profit/Loss: +£29.00 (1 Non Runner)

Profit again

Overall Summary

317 Successful Lays from 499  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£435.98

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Profitable Lays Day 33: 03/01/12

2  Successful Lays from 6 Profit/Loss: -£38.70

Few runners but sadlya poor day

Overall Summary

319 Successful Lays from 505  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£397.28

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Profitable Lays Day 34: 04/01/12

13  Successful Lays from 15 Profit/Loss: +£81.10

Great Day

Overall Summary

332 Successful Lays from 520  (65%):  Profit/Loss: +£478.38

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Profitable Lays Day 35: 05/01/12

7  Successful Lays from 13 Profit/Loss: +£27.20 (2 NR's)

Great Day

Overall Summary

339 Successful Lays from 533  (65%):  Profit/Loss: +£505.58

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Profitable Lays Day 36: 06/01/12

3  Successful Lays from 6 Profit/Loss: -£20.90

Poor  Day

Overall Summary

342 Successful Lays from 539  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£484.68

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Profitable Lays Day 37: 07/01/12

9  Successful Lays from 15  Profit/Loss: +£25.50

Better Day

Overall Summary

351 Successful Lays from 554  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£510.18

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Profitable Lays Day 38: 08/01/12

6  Successful Lays from 12  Profit/Loss: -£20.70

Better Day

Overall Summary

357  Successful Lays from 566  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£489.48

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Profitable Lays Day 39: 09/01/12

6  Successful Lays from 6  Profit/Loss: +£57.00

BINGO full house all 6 lose

363  Successful Lays from 572  (64%):  Profit/Loss: +£546.48

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Profitable Lays Day 40: 10/01/12

0  Successful Lays from 2 Profit/Loss: -£19.80

Just one race today

363  Successful Lays from 574  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£526.28

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Profitable Lays Day 41: 11/01/12

15  Successful Lays from 21 Profit/Loss: +£28.60

Decent day

378  Successful Lays from 595  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£554.88

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Profitable Lays Day 42: 12/01/12

8  Successful Lays from 15  Profit/Loss: -£39.80

Not so good today

386  Successful Lays from 610  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£515.08

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Profitable Lays Day 43: 13/01/12

4  Successful Lays from 12  Profit/Loss: -£82.40

Disaster today, all 4 races lost money, still well up in the trial,

but hopefully not too many more like today

390 Successful Lays from 622  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£432.68

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Profitable Lays Day 44: 14/01/12

16  Successful Lays from 24  Profit/Loss: +£36.30

More like it today

406  Successful Lays from 646  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£468.98

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Profitable Lays Day 45: 15/01/12

4  Successful Lays from 6  Profit/Loss: -£11.80

small loss

410  Successful Lays from 652  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£457.18

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Profitable Lays Day 46: 16/01/12

2  Successful Lays from 3  Profit/Loss: -£26.00

biggish priced loser

412  Successful Lays from 655  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£431.18

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No Bets 17/01/12

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Profitable Lays Day 47: 18/01/12

13  Successful Lays from 24 Profit/Loss: -£13.30

biggish priced loser

425  Successful Lays from 679  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£417.88

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Profitable Lays Day 48: 19/01/12

9  Successful Lays from 14 Profit/Loss: -£25.00  (1 NR)

Another losing day

434  Successful Lays from 693  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£392.88

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Profitable Lays Day 49: 20/01/12

3  Successful Lays from 3 Profit/Loss: -£28.50

1 race all 3 unplaced

437  Successful Lays from 696  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£421.38

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Profitable Lays Day 50: 21/01/12

17  Successful Lays from 30 Profit/Loss: -£70.30

Poor day, disaster in the last losing 50 points

454  Successful Lays from 726  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£351.08

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Profitable Lays Day 51: 22/01/12

6  Successful Lays from 9 Profit/Loss: +£5.50

460  Successful Lays from 735  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£356.58

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Profitable Lays Day 52: 23/01/12

7  Successful Lays from 9 Profit/Loss: +£12.30

467  Successful Lays from 744  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£368.88

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Profitable Lays Day 53: 24/01/12

8  Successful Lays from 12 Profit/Loss: -£127.50

Well a true nighmare in the 230 with Allanit retuning over 16-1 on the place market

475  Successful Lays from 756  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£241.38

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Profitable Lays Day 54: 25/01/12

6  Successful Lays from 9 Profit/Loss: -£0.80

481  Successful Lays from 765  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£240.58

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Profitable Lays Day 55: 26/01/12

5  Successful Lays from12  Profit/Loss: -75.90

486  Successful Lays from 777  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£164.68

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Profitable Lays Day 56: 27/01/12

14  Successful Lays from 21  Profit/Loss: +64.60

After a dire last week or so, with some really bad luck

Nice to see a very good day

500  Successful Lays from 798  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£229.28

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Profitable Lays Day 57: 28/01/12

11 Successful Lays from 18 Profit/Loss: +36.10

another good day

511  Successful Lays from 816  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£265.38

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Profitable Lays Day 58: 30/01/12

9 Successful Lays from 12 Profit/Loss: +30.10

another good day

520  Successful Lays from 828  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£295.48

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Profitable Lays Day 59: 31/01/12

11  Successful Lays from 18 Profit/Loss: +£25.88

another good day

531  Successful Lays from 846  (62%):  Profit/Loss: +£321.36

Final Day tomorrow

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Profitable Lays Day 60: 01/02/12

6 Successful Lays from 9 Profit/Loss: +£26.70

another good day to finish the trial

537  Successful Lays from 855  (63%):  Profit/Loss: +£348.06

Report to follow

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11 replies
  1. Chris says:

    Hi Kevin,
    We’re declaring the results at Betfair SP. We realise that you can’t actually lay to a fixed stake at BFSP, but we’d suggest using a bot set as close to the scheduled off time as possible: over a period of time, the slight differences in price will even themselves out.

    Chris (Support)

  2. yousuf ahmed says:

    dear sir.i am interested in your system,before i commit to purchase can you tell me which is the best betting bot to use for this system,thanks.

    • Chris says:

      Hi Yousuf,
      Thanks for the enquiry, there are several bots available that would do the job for you, but I use the Grey Horse Bot (click the link for details.) This works well with Profitable Lays.

  3. Dan says:

    Well done Chris
    How does one get one’s greasy hands on this system and how much
    does it cost?
    Cheers
    dan

  4. Chris says:

    Hi Dan, the quickest and easiest way of getting hold of this one is to click this link: Profitable Lays.
    The system manual itself will cost you £67 as a one-off fee and the access to the members’ site (ie they find the selections for you!) is a further £30 per 3 months ie £97 now and £30 in April etc.

    Chris

  5. Paul Cooper says:

    Hi Chris

    A couple of questions! Are you using £10 as a fixed stake per bet or is it a liability of £10 per bet or trying to win £10 each bet? Also what size of betting bank do you suggest? Also, do you take early prices or SP?

    Paul

  6. Paul Cooper says:

    And why are you showing today as an up day, whilst the Profitable Lays website is showing today as a down day???

  7. Chris says:

    Paul,
    I personally take a price via a bot set at 60 seconds before the off time and I use a 1pt fixed stake to win 0.95pts per lay. I had the service as losing £16.30 on 19/1/12, so i’m not sure where Neil (our reviewer) has those figures from and at what time he takes his prices, but I shall find out for you.

    Chris

  8. Chris says:

    Hi again Paul,

    The discrepancy in results for 19/01 was down to a simple misreading of figures on a results page. The prices for one race had been copied down wrongly: a purely innocent mistake that we’re all capable of.
    I’ve amended the figures on here now and it was indeed a losing day.

    Thanks for pointing it out to us,
    Chris

  9. Brian says:

    Hi, I am interested in this system and also the selections site. What i need to know is when are the selections normally available ? is it the evenig before or what time of day if it is same day.

    Cheers

    Brin

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