Tortoise and The Hare 4th July 2012

Final update! After a supersonic start, peaking at 60+ points, the slow decline followed with an astonishing 61 bets without a winner, although the placers were consistent as ever. Ultimately, what we're left with from betting win and place to level stakes for six weeks is, after commission, a profit of 2.53. However, what we see when splitting the bets into their two component parts, i.e. Win bets and Place bets, are two entirely different beasts:

WIN bets. 147 bets overall returned 6 winners during the first three weeks, none during the last three. Having developed the system over a few years, I know to expect the long losing runs on win bets. At year's end, though, there has always been a decent profit. For this 6 weeks however, it's a loss of 36.92.

PLACE bets. Now this is the bread and butter of the system. Over the last 6 weeks 117 qualifying (5+ matched) bets returned 30 hits. That's a whacking 25+% Strike Rate at a MINIMUM 4/1 return on each. In this case returning 162.05 points, or 156.45 after commission, a profit of 39.45.

Using 80/20 place/win staking that equates to a profit after commission of 24.176 points.

Hope you've enjoyed the ride, and as there are a couple of contenders this afternoon I'll leave them with you as a little extra:

W2.40 Draco Boy 20/1, 32, 6.9

W4.10 Cool Cascade 16/1, 21, 5


'Bye for now, and remember - Have fun! 🙂

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9 replies
  1. ancamp says:

    Very impressive! Please can you let me know how I can continue to follow your selections.
    I have joined your website but can not see any tips listed.

    • Matt Bisogno says:

      Hi Andy

      Good question – answer will be revealed in just a couple of days! 🙂


  2. MondoRay says:

    Sod’s Law (as expected) gave us that winner and good-priced placer today! More of similar to come soon!

  3. graeme says:

    Sod’s law true enough !

    As usual well done with the placers.

    Hopefully the winners will pick up again too….. 🙂

  4. graeme says:

    Hi All, Just want to mention this… 🙂

    I used to look up Have Your Say on C4 teletext up until it ended a few years ago,there were a few characters on there!

    Catwoman,Ghost and Mondo were but a few.

    Mondo used to regularly tip up the big price winners,20/1 33/1 40/1 and even as big as 50/1 +,which I found amazing.

    He was the man I would follow with eagerness.

    When C4 HYS went I was dissapointed to say the least, but then thrilled to find Mondo on Spawn Of HYS.

    There are just a few guys on Spawn Of HYS ,sometimes small is beautiful. 🙂

    Anyway the main thing Mondo was there 🙂

    Over the last few years Mondo has consistently posted the big price winners,with myself chipping in a few too.

    Mondo would post his profit/loss each month on the site and very very seldom a non-profitable month was to be seen.

    I believed there was money to be made on betting his selections to place as well,so around 18 months ago I asked Mondo to post the profit/loss on his placers as well as his winners,It took a bit of asking but eventually he did, low and behold there was more profit to be seen.This was the way to cover in-between the big-price winners coming in !

    I have consistently made a healthy profit by following Mondo’s selections overall over the last few years and more. 🙂

    Now it looks like Mondo,alas.will be leaving Spawn Of HYS, but one thing for sure is that I will be following him on The Tortoise And The Hare at

    Wishing Mondo continued success with

    Graeme Johnston

    • Matt Bisogno says:

      Hi Graeme

      Thanks for the comment, and the history as well. Very interesting.

      Just to point out that Tortoise and the Hare was a ‘working title’, and the new service will be called ‘Placed To Win’.

      More tomorrow, hopefully.


      • graeme says:

        Sounds like a very apt service ‘Placed To Win’ . I will be looking out for this.



  5. MondoRay says:

    Thanks for the kind comments graeme. Don’t worry, I’ll still be keeping an eye on the hys gang to see how they’re all doing!


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